Call for Videos: Ringeck, Danzing, and Dobrginer

The table of contents and templates are ready for indexing Liechtenauer longsword videos. Now comes the hard part, figuring out where each relevant video fits in the index and filming new videos to fill in the gaps.

Index Design

The index is based on the Liechtenauer verse number. This allows us to more easily find corresponding passages across multiple glosses.

When the gloss contains multiple plays or techniques associated with a single Liechtenauer verse, we add the gloss’s passage number. At times it is hard to determine whether or not a given passage

Existing Videos

The general rule for existing videos is simple that they must be publically accessible. For example, anything you find on a YouTube or forum search is fair game. But if it’s a private link sent to you in an email, make sure you ask first.

If you need to create a new page to host the video, pick the appropriate template from the drop-down box in the upper-right corner.

For YouTube, please delete the height and width. Otherwise the videos won’t resize correctly when viewing on a phone.

New Videos

Newly filmed videos are of course welcome. You don’t have to have the absolute best interpretation, just an honest effort to match the text.

We’re especially interested in never before filmed passages. Even if you aren’t the best fencer in the world, you can help push the art forward by offering a preliminary interpretation that others haven’t thought about.

Next Steps

The horseback and shortsword/half-swording indexes still need to be updated to reflect what’s actually covered by each gloss. But that doesn’t seem to be an area of active research so we’re probably going to wait on that.

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8 Responses to Call for Videos: Ringeck, Danzing, and Dobrginer

  1. Joe says:

    I am guessing by the fact that the links are all dead that this thread/blog is mostly that way too… but just in case, I have a few questions:

    For people new to this would you recommend starting with a single source or do you need multiple sources to kind of “get the hang of it” and develop a complete picture?

    For example, If I wanted to start studying Ringeck material should I also look into Dobringer, Danzig, and Lew or are they different enough that it might cause issues with learning the mechanics right?

    • Grauenwolf says:

      Updated link:

      Honestly though, I haven’t had the volunteer support needed to make the video wiki a sustainable project.

    • Grauenwolf says:

      I think Meyer is a much better source for German longsword. As a general rule, the later in time the source was written the more they know about how to actually write training manuals.

      And Meyer does cover the same material as Ringeck in part 3 of book 1. So once you get that far, pick up Ringeck and friends as supplementary material.

      • Joe says:

        Good to know. The thing is at least half the schools around here claim to use the Ringeck lineage for longsword so I was trying to keep things simple between sources and what I learn in classes (which I can only attend ince a month, when I start). If most of Meyer’s stuff is similar than I like this idea very much.

      • Grauenwolf says:

        The major difference is the order in which material is presented. Ringeck assumes that you already know the basics of fencing so he focuses on refining a small set of high-value techniques.

        Meyer more or less starts at the beginning. He doesn’t even teach thrusts, a cornerstone of Ringeck, until you finish the longsword book and start looking at other weapons. (The idea is you apply the lessons on the later weapons to the longsword as well.)

        The trick to using Meyer in a Ringeck context is when you see “show the point” or “cut with the short edge” he’s usually saying “You can thrust here, but its unsafe for a beginner so we’re going to modify the old play to use a cut”.

  2. Joe says:

    Sounds like I am probably going with Meyer’s manual , thanks for the tip. If I decide to get the 1570 manual, do you see any reason to get the 1568 version along with it?

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